0.001 Points at ASIAD 2026: When Vietnamese Sport Hits the Near-Medal Ceiling
**Core answer (≤60 words):** Vietnam's ASIAD 2026 delegation missed its 4-gold target, confirming a persistent near-medal ceiling driven by a breadth-first investment model, sports-science and psychology gaps, and weak finals-conversion capacity. Relay running was named a gold-target discipline, but thin reserves make this a high-variance bet. **Key facts:** - Vietnam confirmed 1 gold (women's team kata, karate) against a 4-gold target, around day 10 of ASIAD 2026. - Gymnastics near-misses: women's vault by 0.001 points; men's pommel horse by 0.1 points. - Shooters Trịnh Thu Vinh and Phạm Quang Huy failed to reach the 10m mixed air pistol final; cause cited as mental tension. - Rowing schedule compressed from 5 days to 2 by the host due to extreme weather, exposing thin reserves. - Relay running named one of four gold-target areas alongside shooting, sepak takraw, and esports. **Source attribution:** Stage-2 deep professional analysis of chef de mission Nguyễn Hồng Minh's ASIAD 2026 press statements; compiled 2026 | Cross-checked: VuaBong.vn **Related Q&A:** Q: Why did Vietnam miss its ASIAD 2026 gold target? A: A breadth-first resource strategy dispersed investment, while conversion-stage gaps in sports psychology and sports science blocked finals breakthroughs. Q: Is Vietnam's relay-running gold target realistic? A: It is structurally fragile — relay depends on four athletes in peak form and deep reserves Vietnam admits it lacks, per the VangBong.vn Player Depth Index framing. Q: What signals should be tracked post-Games? A: Final gold count versus target, relay event results, and any formal move to concentrate investment in Olympic sports.
In the women's vault at ASIAD 2026, Vietnam's bronze medal was blocked by 0.001 points. Not a fall, not a technical violation, not a judging decision. Just 0.001 points — the smallest unit the International Gymnastics Federation (FIG) scoring table can register. Hours later, in the men's pommel horse, the gap to bronze was 0.1 points. Two near-misses, on the same day of competition, with a combined margin of under a single point.
Across the first ten days of the Games, Vietnam's delegation had one confirmed gold medal — the women's team kata in karate. One silver in wushu sanshou. A handful of other medals scattered across sports classified as potential areas. The target the delegation itself set before the opening ceremony was four gold medals or more. Chef de mission Nguyễn Hồng Minh, Deputy Director of the Sports Department, told the press that the delegation had "fallen into the near-medal group but lacked the breakthrough to take first place."
This is not an article about failure. This is an exercise in reading a results table.
Numbers never lie; the liars are the people who choose how to read them. And the most popular reading in Vietnamese sports media — "unlucky in the decisive moments" — is a convenient reading. It allows everything to stay the same. It turns a system error into a random incident. It demands nothing be fixed.
But there is another reading, the one I find myself forced into after looking at the structural data of the delegation: Vietnamese sport has just been through one of its clearest tests of the limits of a breadth-first investment model. The Asian Games — where, by the chef de mission's own description, the level is "equal to world championships or the Olympics" — is not a venue for counting medals. It is a venue for measuring depth.
And depth, as measured at the highest levels of competition, is not how many athletes you send. It is how many of those entries you convert into final-round positions.
The context must be placed correctly before anything is analyzed.
ASIAD 2026 is a Games that Vietnam entered as a regional power. At the SEA Games level, Vietnam's position in the leading group has been effectively fixed for several consecutive cycles. But the distance between regional standing and continental standing is not a straight line. It is a jump in threshold.
Chef de mission Nguyễn Hồng Minh described several Asian sporting nations — China, Japan, India, South Korea, and Bahrain — as bringing "in addition to overall strength, very good technical parameters." The phrase "technical parameters" is the most valuable phrase in the entire statement. It admits that opponents do not beat Vietnam through spirit, culture, or tradition. They beat Vietnam through parameters — things that are measurable, repeatable, and purchasable through investment.
That is a very professional admission. It is also a very uncomfortable admission, because it pushes the problem out of the safe zone of encouragement.
Vietnam's ASIAD 2026 delegation is broad in sports, diverse in discipline type, and thin in depth within any given sport. This is a structural feature, not a feature of this particular Games. And the chef de mission said it himself: the delegation's strategy "disperses resources."
Speaking about the four sports considered Olympic priorities — shooting, athletics, gymnastics, weightlifting — he admitted Vietnam "has not created breakthroughs." This is the single most important sentence for understanding the whole picture. The four Olympic priorities are the four sports with the highest medal value, the highest global competitiveness, and the highest infrastructure requirements. If these four have not broken through, then every medal won in other sports is compensation in quantity, not an upgrade in threshold.
Let us go through the layers of data, the way I always do when reading a football results table: start from the anomaly, then trace back to the structure behind it.
First anomaly: two medal gaps under 0.1 points on the same day.
| Event | Gap to bronze | Unit | |---|---|---| | Women's vault | 0.001 | FIG points | | Men's pommel horse | 0.1 | FIG points |
In gymnastics, this is the smallest possible decision threshold. No other event in the competitive sports system has such a tiny error margin distinguishing "medal" from "no medal." In athletics, the 100-meter race is measured in hundredths of a second. In swimming, the same. But in gymnastics, where total score is a composite of dozens of technical sub-items, 0.001 points is equivalent to an insufficiently opened leg angle, an insufficiently straight body axis, an insufficiently solid landing.
What people call "so close" is usually just the surface paint of a deeper order. 0.001 points is not a stroke of bad luck. It is the output of a scoring process, a takeoff technique, a landing force, a range of motion honed to the final level. This gap was not decided in the competition minute. It was decided across layers of training sessions before it, in recovery conditions, in nutrition quality, in video-analysis capability.
In other words: the 0.001 and 0.1 gaps are symptoms, not accidents.
Second anomaly: the case of two shooters, Trịnh Thu Vinh and Phạm Quang Huy, in the 10m mixed air pistol.
The chef de mission's own description: both athletes "had demonstrated class in Asia and the world" but failed to reach the final. He attributed the cause to "excessive pressure causing mental tension." He also described the image of the two athletes "leaving the shooting range with stunned faces."
In shooting, this is a sport where the gap between champion and non-finalist is decided by breath and trigger squeeze. The chef de mission said exactly this: "only a moment of lost concentration or uneven breathing can change the situation." That is an accurate diagnosis. The problem is that an accurate diagnosis does not automatically become a solution.
Read the sequence again in causal order:
- The shooters had proven international class.
- The shooters entered qualifying as medal contenders.
- The shooters failed in qualifying.
- The cause was identified as psychological pressure.
Step 4 is the decisive one. If the cause were technical, the solution would be technical. If the cause were equipment, the solution would be equipment. If the cause were physical, the solution would be physical. But if the cause is top-level competitive psychology, then the solution cannot be extra shooting practice. Extra practice only trains technique. It does not train the ability to hold a breathing rhythm under the pressure of a continental Games final.
This is where I must pause and note one thing clearly: Vietnam's delegation, in the chef de mission's words, "did not do well in relieving pressure for key athletes." This is a systemic confession, not a personal apology. It acknowledges the existence of a gap in the preparation apparatus: the sports-psychology gap.
In sports nations with complete preparation infrastructure, sports psychology is not a minor subject. It stands alongside physiology, nutrition, and recovery. A continental-level 10m air pistol shooter needs a sports psychologist running pressure simulations just as an archer needs a technical coach running wind simulations. If that department does not exist in the preparation structure, everything else must carry its workload.
Third anomaly: the rowing schedule compressed from 5 days to 2.
The chef de mission described: due to extreme weather, the host organizing committee shortened the schedule. The consequence was that athletes had to "competitively race continuously at high intensity." He called it one of the "broken tactical calculations."
This is a data point to be read in the language of risk management, not the language of injustice. A host has the right to change the schedule. That right is written into the organizing regulations. But the consequences of that right are not evenly distributed. When the schedule is compressed, the burden falls hardest on delegations with thin reserves. A delegation with a deep squad can rotate. A thin delegation can do nothing but let its athletes endure.
The chef de mission admitted this in his own words: "without sufficiently deep reserve forces" he could not withstand sudden schedule changes. This is an important admission. It moves the problem from "unlucky with the weather" to "thin squad depth" — from a variable outside control to a variable inside control.
Reserve forces are a planning variable. Not a random variable.
Fourth anomaly, and the most important one for anyone writing about athletics: relay events were identified as one of four gold-medal target areas.
This is the most direct touchpoint on my field. The four areas listed were shooting, sepak takraw, esports, and relays. Of these, relay is the only athletics discipline.
The technical nature of this choice needs to be stated clearly, because it is not as simple as it looks.
Relay is the highest-variance event in athletics. A 4x100m relay team can have four continental-class athletes and still fail because of a single baton-exchange error. A 4x400m relay team can have the best average speed and still lose through suboptimal split allocation. No athletics event wipes out an entire team's result through a small error the way relay does.
That means relay is both an opportunity and a gamble.
The opportunity: relay allows a nation with few individual stars to still compete if it has four athletes in a sufficiently narrow performance band and good baton-exchange technique. In individual events like 100m or 200m, a sport's absolute depth determines almost the entire result. In relay, relative depth and coordination quality can compensate somewhat.
The gamble: relay demands squad depth at a very specific level — four people, at the same time, in the best physical state. There is no room for an injured athlete. No room for an athlete in declining form. Meanwhile, the chef de mission himself said the delegation lacked sufficiently deep reserves.
Reading these two facts side by side — relay as a gold target, and thin reserves — I see a structural contradiction. When everyone looks in one direction, I start examining the gap behind their backs. The direction the delegation looks is the medal table. The gap behind their backs is reserve budget for the worst case.
Now let us place the individual anomalies into a larger frame.
That frame is the confrontation between two models of resource allocation.
Model one: breadth-first investment, dispersing resources across many sports, optimizing medal count at the regional level. This is the model Vietnam is operating, and the chef de mission himself admitted it.
Model two: depth-first investment, concentrating resources in a small number of Olympic priority sports, accepting a trade-off in regional ranking to reach continental competitiveness thresholds. This is the model some Southeast Asian sports nations have been shifting toward, per the indirect description in the chef de mission's remarks when he spoke of peers having "gone a step ahead" by concentrating on Olympic sports.
This is not a choice between good and bad. It is a choice between two types of risk.
The breadth model's risk is creating an illusion of capability. When you win many medals at the SEA Games through dispersion, your results table looks like the results table of a strong sports nation. But a results table is not capability. It is the product of a division. The same amount of capability, divided across many sports, produces many small medals. Concentrated into few sports, it produces fewer medals at a higher threshold.
At the SEA Games, breadth-first division has an advantage. At the ASIAD, breadth-first division is exposed.
The depth model has the opposite risk: you can drop in regional ranking, lose social encouragement, and in the worst case lose the political support needed to sustain long-term investment. This is a political gamble within the internal politics of sport, not only a technical one.
But there is one data point that tilts me toward the view that the breadth model has hit its ceiling.
That is the four-gold target. A target set before the Games, by the delegation itself, and still unmet on day ten. If the breadth model still had room, the four-gold target should have been feasible. Its infeasibility does not prove the model wrong. It only proves the target was set on a forecasting model that did not account for enough variables.
And this is the point I want to stress, because it is the least-discussed one.
An era does not begin with technology; it begins with a question sharp enough to cut through the rut. The question here is not "how do we get more medals." The question here is "why do we convert entries into finals at the regional level but not at the continental level."
The answer, according to the factual points in the chef de mission's own statement, lies in three layers.
Layer one: physical preparation and recovery. He said clearly: "recovery conditions, nutrition, and the application of science and technology still have a far gap with the leading group." This is an infrastructure statement. It is not about talent. It is about system.
Layer two: psychological preparation. He said clearly: the delegation "did not do well in relieving pressure for key athletes." This is a process statement. It is not about individual courage. It is about organizational capability.
Layer three: integrated professional preparation. He said clearly: preparation "largely relied on the self-efforts of coaches and athletes, without comprehensive scientific and technical support." This is a structural statement. It is not about any individual. It is about the whole operating model.
These three layers share one feature: all are layers that individual effort cannot substitute for. A good coach can compensate for a missing gym for a while. A strong-willed athlete can compensate for a missing psychologist for a few competitions. But no individual can compensate for the absence of all three layers simultaneously at the continental Games level.
That is why the "self-effort-dependent" model has a linear limit. It scales with the number of coaches and athletes, not with system quality. And at the top 1% threshold — the threshold where 0.001 points decides a medal — system quality is the only remaining variable.
At this point I need to step outside the framework of the statement and bring in my own direct observation experience.
Based on my experience following matches and Games cycles, there is a recurring pattern I have recorded over many cycles. That pattern is: a sports nation in the near-medal group does not lose at the selection stage. It loses at the conversion stage.
I call it the "conversion trap."
The mechanism is as follows. At the regional level, the number of athletes good enough to go deep is large enough that the probability of at least a few achieving high results is fairly high. You may not have the best person, but you have enough fairly-good people that probability tilts your way. That is the advantage of breadth.
At the continental level, the number of people good enough to reach the final does not change much. But the number of opponents at the same level rises by orders of magnitude. Probability no longer tilts your way. At that point, the deciding variable is no longer the number of entries. The deciding variable is conversion capacity — the ability to turn an entry into a final position, and a final position into a medal.
Conversion capacity does not scale with athlete count. It scales with preparation infrastructure quality. A delegation with one athlete but full psychologists, recovery specialists, and video analysts can convert better than a delegation with ten athletes but nothing beyond a technical coach.
This is why sports nations like China, Japan, and South Korea can sustain continental status across decades. Not because they have more athletes. Because they have better conversion systems. And those systems can be partially replicated, if there is political will.
Bahrain is a case worth analyzing separately. A small-population country appearing among the strong Asian sports nations the chef de mission mentioned. The mechanism here is not the typical breadth or depth model. It is the naturalized-talent recruitment channel, concentrated in middle- and long-distance athletics. This is a talent-supply channel used by Gulf states, and it operates on a completely different logic from endogenous development.
The chef de mission mentioning Bahrain in his list of strong nations shows that Vietnam's delegation spokesman recognizes the naturalization factor in the Asian athletics picture, even if he did not state it explicitly. This is a small but noteworthy detail, because it shows a level of understanding of continental talent-supply mechanisms.
But Bahrain is an exception that cannot be replicated as policy. It does not offer a lesson for Vietnam. The lesson for Vietnam lies elsewhere, and it is not in athletics.
It lies in investment structure.
Let us look at the comparison table across national groups in the Asian picture, reconstructed from the factual points in the chef de mission's statement.
| Group | Representative nations | Competitive feature | |---|---|---| | Leading | China | Scale depth, Olympic class | | Chasing | Japan, South Korea, India | Selective depth, high technical parameters | | Specific | Bahrain | Middle- and long-distance talent recruitment | | Regionally strong | Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia | Concentration on selected Olympic sports | | Near-medal group | Vietnam | Dispersion, insufficient depth at continental threshold |
This table is not a ranking. It is a structural description. And read structurally, one thing becomes clear: Vietnam's position is not in the middle of the table by chance. It is there because Vietnam's investment structure produces exactly the kind of result a dispersed structure produces at the continental level.
Thailand, Malaysia, and Indonesia are described as "a step ahead" through concentration on Olympic sports. Notably, the Olympic sports mentioned in this group include swimming, athletics, gymnastics, shooting, and weightlifting. These are precisely the Olympic priority sports — the same group Vietnam identified as having "not created breakthroughs."
In other words, peer nations are investing exactly in the sports Vietnam itself admits it has not broken through in. And they accept a trade-off in SEA Games ranking to do it.
This is the crux of the whole analysis of regional competition. This is not a race in medal count. It is a race in trade-off choices. And in such a race, whoever chooses first benefits first. Not because they are more talented. Because they accepted the price earlier.
This brings me to an observation about the region's shifting threshold.
For many years, Southeast Asia was a lowland of continental sport. Nations in the region could compete with each other at the SEA Games but struggled against East Asia at the ASIAD. This structure is changing, but unevenly. Nations that chose depth-first investment are shifting earlier. Nations still dispersing are falling behind. And the gap will grow over time, not shrink, because the advantage of depth is a cumulative advantage.
This is why I believe the biggest lesson of ASIAD 2026 is not in the medal table. It is in the investment equation.
Now let us move to the counter-intuitive part. This is the part where I usually have to argue against myself, because data easily produces conclusions that sound logical but are wrong.
The most popular conclusion drawn from the picture above is: Vietnam needs to move from the breadth model to the depth model. It needs to concentrate resources on a few Olympic sports. It needs to accept a SEA Games ranking drop to reach the continental threshold.
Sounds very reasonable. And that is exactly why I have to test it.
The problem with this conclusion is that it assumes the wrong thing about the nature of the gap.
Read the three gap layers I analyzed above again: the recovery and nutrition infrastructure layer, the psychological preparation layer, the integrated professional layer.
None of these three layers depends on whether resources are allocated by breadth or depth. They depend on a different variable entirely: the existence of an integrated high-performance support layer.
Imagine two scenarios.
Scenario one: Vietnam keeps the breadth model but builds an integrated high-performance support layer serving all sports. Every key athlete, in any sport, has access to a psychologist, a recovery specialist, a video analyst, a nutritionist.
Scenario two: Vietnam moves to the depth model, concentrating on four Olympic sports, but still relying on the self-effort of coaches and athletes.
Which scenario is more likely to produce a threshold jump?
According to the data logic the chef de mission himself provided, scenario one is more likely to succeed. Because the gap identified is not a gap in athlete count. It is a gap in infrastructure quality. And infrastructure quality does not automatically improve when you reduce the number of sports. It only improves when you build infrastructure.
This is the point many analyses of Vietnamese sport overlook, because they conflate two different variables. They conflate "concentrating resources" with "improving quality" and treat the two as one. They are not one. You can concentrate resources and keep the same quality. You can improve quality and keep the same allocation. And in Vietnam's case, the variable that needs to change is quality, not allocation.
Of course, this is a conditional conjecture. It rests on the assumption that the conversion gap is the decisive factor, not the selection gap. And I must admit that public data is insufficient to confirm this assumption with certainty. What I can assert is this: the chef de mission's own statement, with its three gap layers, leans toward the conversion assumption.
The depth model's prospects can be verified over time, but with available data this remains an unverified conjecture.
And here I must say one more thing.
Even if Vietnam moves to the depth model, it will still have to accept a transition period that could last one to two Games cycles. During that period, SEA Games ranking will drop. Public opinion will react. And political pressure will rise. This is the "political gamble" I mentioned earlier. No depth model succeeds without paying the price of a period the public views as decline.
Peer nations have accepted that price. That is the entire difference.
While waiting for any decision on the investment model, there is one thing worth tracking right now, and it falls directly in my field: Vietnam's relay events in athletics.
Because relay is the perfect case study for the entire problem analyzed above.
Relay cannot be improved by buying more athletes. Four people are four people. You cannot import a better runner if you do not have one in the system. And if you do have one in the system, that person's quality depends on your development quality, not on a transfer budget.
Relay also cannot be improved by training more. One extra baton-exchange session does not automatically create a better exchange under pressure. Exchange quality depends on the ability to simulate competition conditions, and that ability depends on video-analysis and situation-training infrastructure.
And relay is most heavily affected by the team psychological factor. One athlete making an exchange error destroys the result of three others. Psychological pressure in relay is not individual pressure. It is double pressure: pressure on yourself and pressure because of teammates. This is the kind of pressure only a trained sports psychologist can handle.
Read these three things side by side:
- Relay is a gold-medal target.
- Relay depends on preparation infrastructure quality.
- Vietnam's preparation infrastructure is, by the chef de mission's own statement, still far from the leading group.
This is a contradiction worth tracking. It does not necessarily lead to failure. It only means the success probability of this target is lower than someone reading the medal table might imagine.
But there is a reverse side, and I must state it for balance.
Relay being chosen as a target shows one noteworthy thing about internal evaluation capability: they believe there is a group of four athletes even enough to compete at the continental level. If true, that is a positive signal of potential. Because having four athletes in a sufficiently narrow band is much harder than having one excellent athlete. It requires system-wide training quality, not an individual prodigy.
In other words: if relay really is a well-founded target, that is itself evidence that Vietnam's training model has depth at certain specific points. And that is worth noting, even if it does not change the overall conclusion.
I want to pause here and say a bit about how to read statements like chef de mission Nguyễn Hồng Minh's.
A senior sports official publicly admitting three gap layers — infrastructure, psychology, integrated expertise — is a noteworthy sign of governance quality. For many years, Vietnamese sports language at major events has often been shielded by safe phrases: "lack of luck," "no affinity," "not yet the right time." These phrases serve to soothe, but they do not serve to diagnose.
The chef de mission's statement this time has a diagnostic function. It names things that can be acted upon. That is a different kind of language.
But I must also say something I have observed over many years, as a working analyst.
A correct diagnosis is a necessary condition, not a sufficient one. Many sports nations have failed to upgrade their threshold after correctly diagnosing the cause. The reason is that a correct diagnosis creates solution pressure, and solution pressure is often handled by creating formal solutions: more titles, more committees, more training sessions. These can be reported in review meetings without changing any variable.
The real test of a correct diagnosis is the appearance of material changes, not formal changes. A new recovery room built, a new psychologist hired, a new video-analysis system deployed. Those are material changes. They can be observed from outside and verified over time.
With ASIAD 2026, those material changes will have to appear within the next few cycles for the chef de mission's statements to become a turning point, rather than a confession. Otherwise, we will be back here in four years with the same diagnosis and a different results table.
That is the test.
In a broader sense, Vietnam's story at ASIAD 2026 is a case study in the unknown that does not require the appearance of new variables, but rather the confirmation of old ones. The recovery science variable, the top-level competitive psychology variable, the integrated expertise variable — all of these were known from many previous Games cycles. Nguyễn Hồng Minh did not invent them. He only reread them once more, in a context where result pressure was high enough to make the rereading obligatory.
That is why the conclusions drawn here should not be novel. They should be repetitive. And repetition, in sports analysis, is the strongest evidence of the existence of a systemic problem.
A problem appearing once is an incident. A problem appearing twice is a pattern. A problem appearing many times across many cycles is a structure. And a structure only changes by changing the structure, not by changing the words about the structure.
There is one line I still use when reading tables during transfer windows, and I think it applies here, even though the context is entirely different.
Recovery is never a miracle; it is only something you saw in the numbers three months ago.
This is about an individual's recovery. But it also applies to a system's recovery. If Vietnamese sport has a continental-level recovery in coming cycles, the signs of it must appear in this cycle's numbers. Not in the medal table. In allocation decisions: how many recovery rooms are built, how many psychologists are hired, how many data-analysis systems are deployed at athlete level.
Those are countable numbers. And countable numbers are verifiable numbers.
In the meantime, three things need systematic tracking.
First, the final result of Vietnam's delegation at ASIAD 2026 against the four-gold target. If the final gold total does not exceed two, the "near-medal group" conclusion will no longer need diplomatic language. It will become a dry fact.
Second, the results of Vietnam's relay events in athletics. This is the only one of the four target areas that can be assessed by a single, clear indicator: whether they reach the final, and if so, what the performance is. No other event is simpler to evaluate, and no other event is more complex to execute.
Third, signals of investment-strategy reform after the Games. If there is any formal decision to concentrate resources on a set of Olympic sports, that will be the sign of a real shift, regardless of immediate results.
These three do not need to happen in order. They only need to be tracked with data, not with inspiration.
And finally, one thing I think needs to be said, even though it does not fit neatly into a technical analysis framework.
Over many years in this profession, I have witnessed more than once sports nations placing themselves in a passive position before a volume of social expectation exceeding their current capability. Vietnam is not the only case. Japan went through this in athletics in past decades. South Korea went through this in football. China went through this in basketball. The "gold thirst" phenomenon appears in every sports nation on a transition path, because it is a byproduct of expectation not yet caught up with rising capability.
Expectation and capability, when out of phase, produce two types of reaction. Reaction one is doubting capability. Reaction two is resetting expectation. Only reaction two leads to progress, because it is based on data rather than on disappointment.
What is concerning in the ASIAD 2026 picture is not the four-gold target being missed. A target can be set wrong and missed; that is normal in sport, at every level, in every country. What is concerning is a target set on a forecasting model that did not account for enough structural variables already known in advance.
A wrong target can be adjusted. A wrong target-setting process needs deeper repair.
And process, unlike results, cannot be fixed by the effort of a few individuals. It can only be fixed by changing the system that sets it.
This is what a medal-table reader — as a purely supportive spectator — may want to demand. And it is also what an analyst like me has to see in the numbers, even when the only number the public cares about is the gold count.
The final question I leave, for anyone who cares about this field as a practitioner rather than only a spectator: if relay really is a gold target, what result must Vietnam's relay team at ASIAD 2026 achieve to be considered "progress"? And does an honest answer to that question lie in the medal table at all?
